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10:22:10
10:22:10 From Robert Sterbal What are the federated wiki colors?
10:23:11 From Jeff Miller Robert S: for a particular wiki flag?
10:23:17 From Paul Rodwell any colour you like
10:24:54 From Robert Sterbal @Paul, I'll put you down for Green on White
10:25:09 From Jeff Miller <3 That sounds like a good model in Berkeley.
10:25:27 From Eric Dobbs (he/him) I can only be here for about 30 min before my next meeting.
10:25:38 From Robert Sterbal Replying to "I can only be here f..." Indeed
10:25:43 From Jeff Miller (My father's parents were in the North Berkeley hills)
10:26:09 From Eric Dobbs (he/him) Hawaiian has a nice name for that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohana ohana unit
10:26:38 From Jeff Miller (physicist father + stepfather here) except that y'know Mr. Salesforce has leaned hard on "Ohana" in a shallow way
10:27:49 From Robert Best The Roberts are a majority today... So I guess we're using Robert's rules of order? :P
10:29:25 From Jeff Miller I guess I can sign in to DIgital Ocean and update mine. aha shift-click on a linked node Ward, thanks again for reminding me of the Java FedWiki client
10:30:43 From Jeff Miller command-line navigation
10:31:48 From Jeff Miller "what is the shape of this thing?" (FedWiki as a structure of links and sites referring to one another, a platform for collaboration)
10:34:42
10:34:42 From Jeff Miller http://ward.dojo.fed.wiki/view/federation-browser-in-java
10:36:49 From Jeff Miller scriptable, loggable set of FedWiki browsing actions
10:39:11 From Jeff Miller How did the link to "Formatting Strengths" work? I must have had the process about loading a site in the web / javascript / service client works, but the Java client cannot follow that same link and get a page. (Ward demonstrates; Eric speculates that it might be the sitemap of another site in the neighborhood)
10:40:15 From Jeff Miller "I wanted the click resolution to not depend upon the sitemaps, because they were slow and unreliable early on." Marc relates the experience of being prompted with other pages in the federation with the same name as the one I'm following a link to.
10:42:18 From Jeff Miller (the mechanism of the prompting is via looking at sitemaps in the neighborhood, which is Eric's suggestion)
10:42:22 From Paul Rodwell the suggested pages, on the page not found page, are those in the neighbourhood - but not in the context of the page you clicked on.
10:42:41 From Jeff Miller Ward observes that the sitemaps depend on where you have browsed.
10:43:08 From Paul Rodwell context is defined by the history of the wiki the page has existed on in its past - been forked from.
10:43:31 From Jeff Miller (nodding along) There's the personal site and its fork history; there's the browsing history of the client session; there's the particular page and its attribution / derivation history.
10:48:23
10:48:23 From Jeff Miller "Enrich Any SVG" script won't load over HTTP when HTTPS is the page context. (when do certain behaviors work or not)
10:51:07
10:51:07 From Jeff Miller https://relocalizecreativity.net/view/enrich-any-svg
10:53:20 From Jeff Miller (enrich-any-svg update which works with the Assets folder; if the Assets folder and associated script is served over HTTP, it may not work if you're starting in HTTPS) [Eric's explication of the failure mode for the updated enrich-any-svg]
10:54:25 From Paul Rodwell Q. does the frame plugin use the proxy?
10:54:38 From Jeff Miller "When you are logged in to your HTTPS wiki, there is a proxy that runs on your behalf that can fetch the designated-by-browser insecure script as part of the HTTPS server context of the logged-in wiki." sneakernet
10:58:27
10:58:27 From Jeff Miller "When a script becomes important, we should have a process where the script becomes hardened and made available to the FedWiki community, perhaps via a Content Delivery Network"
11:02:28
11:02:28 From Jeff Miller https://scp.relocalizecreativity.net - Marc's Shared Care Plan work
11:02:50 From Paul Rodwell Rebecca Rikner - Uppsala, Sweeden
11:03:30 From Jeff Miller https://scp.relocalizecreativity.net/view/welcome-visitors/view/sprints/view/care-team
11:08:52
11:08:52 From Jeff Miller (Marc describes a SOAP-based distributed mechanism in the earlier SCP prototyping period, and suggests that the cross-site collaboration mechanisms of FedWiki could work for a personal medical record platform) (Ward proposes an extension where ROLES are important in terms of who can see and change what material in the health record)
11:10:30 From Jeff Miller Marc describes an accounting of who has looked at which pages when.
11:12:19 From Jeff Miller Robert S. raises the HIPAA regulations as a form to which U.S.-based organizations are subject; yet, also, the installer of the software (the treating facility) may choose to nominate itself as having fiat access to a patient's records.
11:13:21 From Jeff Miller SCP / "Microsoft Health Vault" / carefully crafted to be outside the HIPAA-managed set of providers. oh interesting thought: are there OTHER forms of collaboration which have the same shape as the roles of a health care team?
11:14:31 From Jeff Miller Ward brings up: "rosters were designed with a classroom in mind" Marc says, "yes, perhaps rosters can make sense in the health care context, my family, my GP care, my specialists"
11:16:50 From Paul Rodwell https://www.patientslikeme.com/
11:17:12 From Jeff Miller Ward suggests: "Can we shape the design such that we feel we're among friends working together, and then add walls and limits where needed?"
11:17:19 From Robert Sterbal Reacted to "Ward suggests: "Can ..." with 👍
11:18:51 From Jeff Miller from Marc about minds and embodiment: "Sensorimotor Life An Enactive Proposal Ezequiel A. Di Paolo Thomas Buhrmann Xabier E. Barandiaran. Worth a look. Sidesteps minds as representational."
11:19:53 From Jeff Miller oh wow the Lofotens in winter? "Underland" subtitle "A Deep Time Journey" :)
11:21:21 From Robert Sterbal time to drop off. Thanks!
11:21:31 From Jeff Miller A book which left a mark on me was "The Man Who Walked Through Time", a solo through the Grand Canyon talking about the rocks and the early humans while negotiating the terrain and the river.
11:22:03 From Ward Cunningham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuval_Noah_Harari
11:22:23 From Paul Rodwell Robert MacFarlane - Underland
11:22:51 From Ward Cunningham https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWiM-LuRe6w
11:24:59 From Jeff Miller I think of the LLM "risks" as basically the same as "finance capitalism" risks -- seeking profit in a hurry
11:25:02 From Paul Rodwell https://maggieappleton.com/lm-sketchbook
11:26:00 From Jeff Miller (and through the hurry, messing up the systems that maintain everything else) " SolidGoldMagikarp" :) found from Reddit number games
11:27:26 From Jeff Miller paper clip maximizers (from Peter D) located in the LLM source material in video game chat
11:33:14
11:33:14 From Jeff Miller optimizing for plausible utterances first and they're good at reminding you of commonplaces in the field
11:35:38 From Jeff Miller oh right Ward tells a story about a skilled research librarian finding relevant sources
11:37:02 From Jeff Miller (the "oh right" was my recollection that someone was talking about low-background steel as a rare pre-1945 resource, and an analogy to pre-LLM texts)
11:42:16
11:42:16 From Jeff Miller Real estate broker: "a professional expert to help the buyer make an investment wisely" (Ward's father)
11:45:21
11:45:21 From Jeff Miller Marc describes the experience with Robert Sadler moving to a black neighborhood and using his knowledge and purposeful work to reverse blockbusting and redlining. 1970s (post-Vietnam; Marc has a video link on Vimeo)
11:50:39
11:50:39 From Marc Pierson Running to next meeting.
11:55:21
11:55:21 From Robert Best Rereclaim
12:05:32
12:05:32 From Jeff Miller "Modern Java" == generics (for me)