Text extraction. See Typescript Archive
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10:04:50 From Jeff Miller LOCKSS principle
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10:08:44 From Jeff Miller until I get a job again no more Ruby server (a decade in)
10:10:21 From Jeff Miller the simplest federated page store that could possibly work?
10:10:52 From Robert Sterbal Thanks for all the wiki pages: http://jeff.dojo.fed.wiki/view/recent-changes
10:12:48 From Robert Sterbal The links aren't working: Cannot GET /view/09:59:34
10:12:54 From Jeff Miller You're welcome! I forgot about Recent Changes and was leaning into backlinks to "Typescript Archive" weather news, political events (Twitter at its best)
10:13:27 From Robert Sterbal I'd recommend creating an index page
10:14:12 From Paul Rodwell and Mastodon servers do disappear.
10:14:42 From Robert Sterbal You would want to do the list in reverse chronological order
10:16:05 From Robert Sterbal is there a category functionality in FedWiki?
10:16:06 From Jeff Miller suggestion for a name: Typescript Index ? categories via backlinks?
10:16:54 From Robert Sterbal this is an example: https://sterbalssundrystudies.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:ZTD
10:17:02 From Jeff Miller In C2, you could essentially "link to a category page, search for backlinks from the category age" page
10:17:52 From Robert Sterbal Ward's Wednesday call chat index?
10:19:13 From Jeff Miller I suppose we could separate Sundays and Wednesdays, but I haven't.
10:20:22 From Robert Sterbal This section: di expert in causal loop diagrams cld use causal shift click in the diagrams doesnt respect the cld use causal loop diagrams to handle how v three phase a different electrical regime from Does not have this line: 10:08:17 From Peter Dimitrios Names are particularly valuable to index
10:21:12 From Jeff Miller hmm aha, interesting, I guess you could peek at the indexing script
10:21:28 From Robert Sterbal I'm a SQL guy
10:21:31 From Jeff Miller "Yeoman's work" is fairly British though.
10:21:50 From Robert Sterbal It causes a lot of yearning for things I am not able to do
10:21:52 From Jeff Miller I'm co-reading "The Art of Postgres" and clearly it's "anything you can program, I can SQL better". (probably at the 80% level, anyway)
10:22:19 From Robert Sterbal My Postgres queries are taking a minute each to run (Spelunking through the PA Voter file)
10:22:58 From Jeff Miller a pile of money and a lot of decision-making power and signature authority tends to attract a circle of flatterers alas
10:24:43 From Robert Sterbal I loved how the people from Washington glowed when it started raining in Palo Alto
10:25:04 From Jeff Miller I hope Palo Alto has its rain cisterns ready.
10:25:34 From Michael Martin @Jeff Miller is this your reference? https://public.nikhil.io/3C0FC878-6E4D-4E8B-94EA-4FE71EF5F600.pdf
10:26:57 From Jeff Miller Yes, that looks like the one! I have a job seeking / skill learning partner, and we are reading through The Art of PostgreSQL together.
10:27:05 From Robert Sterbal Replying to "@Jeff Miller is this..." THANK YOU!
10:27:37 From Jeff Miller It impressed me to see that Postgres has had its own parallel evolution of tooling, test harnesses, and features.
10:28:58 From Robert Sterbal Replying to "(Spelunking through ..." select left(zip,5) as "zip" --, count(*) as "voters" from "FVE" where district_8 = 'USC14' group by left(zip,5) having count(*) < 10 order by left(zip,5)
10:29:03 From Michael Martin Excellent. Thanks you. It's been awhile for me and Postgres...you have piqued my interest!
10:31:33 From Jeff Miller Thoughtworks! (I was a Thoughtworker for about 5 weeks in 2001)
10:32:14 From Robert Sterbal ok, it would be nice to know what folder name to use: Art-of-PostgreSQL-The or Art-of-PostgreSQL-(The)
10:34:54
10:34:54 From Robert Sterbal The majority of the actions will be taken in the third quarter of 2023 and are expected to be completed within the next twelve months. Upon completion of the program, the Company expects to realize annualized cost savings of approximately $75 million to $85 million, and impact approximately 5% to 6% of our employee headcount globally. The majority of the annualized cost savings will come from reductions in operating spend, particularly in non-client, back-office functions. yikes
10:38:03
10:38:03 From Robert Sterbal My favorite SVG map: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Usa_counties_large.svg
10:38:07 From Jeff Miller We have several SVG fans in the house. maybe a majority of the regulars? (well, I keep thinking I miss whiteboards)
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10:44:13 From Marc Pierson Marc Pierson, 360 594-2316, marpie1@comcast.net https://relocalizecreativity.net/view/welcome-visitors/view/relocalize-creativity-explained
10:45:09 From Michael Martin [...contact info to Marc...]
10:45:32 From Marc Pierson https://metapho.relocalizecreativity.net/view/welcome-visitors/view/index/view/six-questions-exercise
10:45:43 From Robert Sterbal
--Robert Sterbal
robert@sterbal.com
412-977-3526
Mosaics by Robert: fb 
(for a fun distraction)
10:45:48 From Jeff Miller good enough to critique! (transcripts) compulsive typist and note taker
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10:48:45 From Jeff Miller Paul is even better at the references!
10:50:03 From Jeff Miller I used a WikiBase wiki for our baby pictures diary. (mutual introductions of the Wednesday Wiki folks with Michael; how did we get here etc.)
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10:53:25 From Paul Rodwell back
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_Transcriber's note:_ this is a direct message to Jeff M. 10:56:10 From Robert Sterbal Ward ==== A year in Venice Beach ~2010 Nike ~2011 data better in a hypertext rather than a spreadsheet New Relic was his day job after Nike (founded on Ruby on Rails) little company becoming a big company Thoughtworks did a similart growth
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11:00:01 From Eric Dobbs I’ve gotta run to a meeting. Nice to met you, Michael. See you all soon.
11:00:45 From Jeff Miller if I may go ahead and drop your note in the main chat? (I've been in the text editor working on marshalling the transcripts}
11:01:34 From Robert Sterbal sure... Just never sure what is appropriate
11:02:01 From Jeff Miller (thanks Robert S) Ward ==== A year in Venice Beach ~2010 Nike ~2011 data better in a hypertext rather than a spreadsheet Nick Niemeir - Node.js wiki version (from the original Ruby on Rails / Sinatra wiki server)
11:03:24 From Michael Martin Reacted to "Nick Niemeir - Node...." with 👍
11:03:29 From Robert Sterbal Reacted to "Nick Niemeir - Node...." with 👍
11:03:48 From Jeff Miller New Relic was his day job after Nike (founded on Ruby on Rails) little company becoming a big company Thoughtworks did a similar growth arc, going from a medium to a large company and a transition.
11:05:13 From Jeff Miller (I'm on the "need to get in someone's insurance pool" phase myself)
11:07:53 From Jeff Miller Paolo Soleri ? Soleri index - healthy communities ah, no, SolAri index
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11:11:34 From Michael Martin Yes I joined ThoughtWorks as employee number 381 or somewhere in that neighborhood...the org, perhaps haphazardly, grew to 14K+...possible case study for diseconomies of scale in a consultancy model
11:12:55 From Jeff Miller Nod. I was at a point where on my first week, I was pulled into an executive board meeting at the Chicago office to introduce myself. Then I was in an empty San Francisco office. Marc describes the three-column diagram format with scaling from local at the bottom to global toward the top
11:14:47 From Jeff Miller with the left column eco-bio-physical scales ("Aliveness of Homestead" up to "Aliveness of Earth" at the top) with the right column being the geo-political world from individual to household to neighborhood, up to nations, regions, and UN.
11:16:01 From Jeff Miller and in the middle column, the institutions which link eco-bio-physical systems to human governance "Aliveness" descends from Kerry's practice of causal loop modeling; each node on a causal loop diagram must be a variable quantity that can be greater or lesser.
11:17:43 From Jeff Miller https://metapho.relocalizecreativity.net/view/index/view/campfire-conversation (Marc prepared for the Metaphorum gathering which he and Kerry attended) https://metapho.relocalizecreativity.net/view/index/view/cave-drawing-sketch Marc says: "I use the FedWiki as a pattern repository".
11:19:05 From Jeff Miller (Marc draws from the SoFi method; also from Christopher Alexander & co's A Pattern Language book)
11:19:16 From Robert Sterbal recommended practices works for me
11:19:30 From Jeff Miller Ward suggests showing a for-instance of Chris's work in Superior, Arizona
11:21:37 From Jeff Miller (Jeff describes Marc's usage of SVG as a driver for "DOM enrichment" or "SVG enrichment" or "SVG import" in FedWiki, finding page names in the SVG labels)
11:23:38 From Jeff Miller (Ward describes the experience of evolving FedWiki's SVG enrichment including finding labels and linking them to potential page names; as a presentation format, SVG sometimes works by preserving source data; arrows.app is an example using the Neo4J property graph semantics which we've been happy with.) Causal loop diagrams are often very stylized such that it captures flows. Vensim is an example for CLD creation; sometimes we can extract and enrich Vensim output.
11:25:15 From Jeff Miller https://marc.relocalizecreativity.net/view/welcome-visitors/view/geo-ecologic-pol-institutions "Regenerate Sonora", a 501(c)3 nonprofit, where "Leo's" is a neighborhood center for redevelopment and sharing work as part of Regenerate Sonora.
11:27:17 From Jeff Miller (Marc describes the institution network for Regenerate Sonora, and its connections with the local ecosystem; homestead through local ecosystem; and to the geopolitical world; up to the county level) Superior, Arizona -- the institution corresponding to the municipality government.
11:29:13 From Jeff Miller (Marc describes conferring with Chris, who is the local organizer for Regenerate Sonora, about how to make connections, using the diagram tool to help set the context for making other connections) Ward points out: "sustainable how? what conenctions at what levels are needed to sustain your work, concretely?"
11:31:07 From Jeff Miller "iMarc", Marc depicts himself as an "institution" for Regenerate Sonora's context, so as not to clash with other page names and contexts.
11:33:02 From Jeff Miller cybernetic rattle / backlash?
11:33:03 From Michael Martin @Marc Pierson thanks for the walk through - fascinating work!
11:33:59 From Jeff Miller (to Ward's note about "how does a thermostat work?" via "it has a heat anticipator", since it needs to be more sophisticated than just "when it's too cold, turn on the heat") http://therm.ward.bay.wiki.org/ - How Thermostats work.
11:34:45 From Marc Pierson https://relocalizecreativity.net/view/mission-critical-functions
11:36:44 From Marc Pierson Use this: http://therm.ward.bay.wiki.org/view/welcome-visitors/view/how-thermostats-work
11:37:03 From Jeff Miller liquid mercury switch + bimetallic strip thermometer
11:38:52 From Jeff Miller "The current through the solenoid also goes into the bimetallic strip, warming up the coil slightly faster than the house warms up."
11:41:13 From Jeff Miller "When I click the wiki button, I can edit pages in my in-browser copy". "A yellow halo means that there's a copy of this page in browser-local storage."
11:42:18 From Jeff Miller "I can remove a page from Local Changes, which means local to the browser." Ward says: "This was my chance to explore what I could do with a diagram in FedWiki"
11:43:21 From Jeff Miller Marc: (Ross Ashby's "homeostat" is a self-regulating system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeostat
11:44:33 From Jeff Miller "The homeostat is one of the first devices capable of adapting itself to the environment; it exhibited behaviours such as habituation, reinforcement and learning through its ability to maintain homeostasis in a changing environment. It was built by William Ross Ashby in 1948 at Barnwood House Hospital. "
11:45:53 From Jeff Miller http://relocalizecreativity.net/view/mission-critical-functions Marc's example of a community worksheet. Marc says: Here's the link from this page to the Arrows.app view that lets you edit the diagram graphically.
11:47:10 From Jeff Miller The community worksheet lets people discuss and assess and plan things at a community level.
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11:50:19 From Jeff Miller continuous user survey DIscord has an amusing OAuth "can't bake cookies on your behalf."
11:52:03 From Jeff Miller (discussion of authentication schemes and authorization schemes that make sense at the FedWiki operational scale, both current and later-on) [fedwiki at Thompson Morrison's scale has a stronger need for external password management]
11:54:15 From Jeff Miller currently Wiki friends mode uses an en-clair reclaim code scheme
11:55:45 From Jeff Miller Ward points to WikiCafe as a place where they have a suitable auth mechanism approved by the school, such as a Google account login. [outside my window: caw caw caw]
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12:03:33 From Robert Sterbal Beginning September 1, 2021, HB1927 made it legal in Texas for most people 21 or over to carry a handgun in a holster without a permit both openly and/or concealed. This law modified the previous open carry law from 2016 by eliminating the requirement to have a license to carry.
12:05:05 From Jeff Miller Hawaii: drive-through daiquiri buckets once upon a time (to Marc's drive-through alcohol in Louisiana)
12:06:23 From Jeff Miller (discussion of bicycle helmet laws) the popsicle index for bicycling "can a kid bike to a store and get a popsicle"
12:06:57 From Robert Sterbal speed is really important https://road.cc/content/news/dutch-neurologists-call-cyclists-wear-helmets-286871
12:09:36
12:09:36 From Jeff Miller http://jeff.dojo.fed.wiki/view/typescript-transcripts ?
12:10:38 From Jeff Miller traffic calming circles have invaded Seattle's neighborhood streets they mostly work
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12:14:37 From Jeff Miller Clifford Stoll "The Cuckoo's Egg" also a local "slow down!" activist on his Berkeley residential street, eventually got good results.
12:15:45 From Peter Dimitrios I thought mine was broken Prius made a screeching noise when running slow or backing up
12:16:15 From Jeff Miller "Stoll is an FCC licensed amateur radio operator with the call sign K7TA."
12:16:30 From Peter Dimitrios old prius did not although the old one had the backup beep-beep INSIDE the car :-)
12:16:45 From Jeff Miller My Nissan Leaf makes noise at low speed. [discussion of the art style auto-pastiche software: "Nighthawks in the style of Van Gogh's Starry Night"]
12:19:12 From Jeff Miller Delight and Outrage? oh wait that's my reading list
12:21:02 From Peter Dimitrios VALL-E X: Multilingual Text-to-Speech Synthesis and Voice Cloning (2023-08-30): https://github.com/Plachtaa/VALL-E-X
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12:25:13 From Jeff Miller Los Angeles Times, 1995, Cliff Stoll and radar tracking. “I was looking out the window when I saw a 12-year-old neighbor across the street, and she was crying because a dog had been hit by a car.” Cars, it seems, were always zooming down this quiet, ash and maple-shaded street. But community pleas to the City Council got nowhere. “I figured it would be a cool thing to measure the speed of the cars as they go by. So I built this microwave oscillator.” The coffee cans, Stoll says, are a one-gigahertz antenna that “squirts radar beams out at the street.” “See!” he says, hoisting up a jury-rigged digital display by the window: “22 m.p.h. . . . 27 m.p.h. . . .”
12:28:26
12:28:26 From Jeff Miller (discussion of recruiting, recruiters, good recruiters) more Stoll, 1995: "Computers and software reward drones and punish creative people,” he continues, really uncorked now. To use a computer well requires strict adherence to rules, to manuals, to someone else’s programming. But “creative people don’t follow someone else’s rule book.”
12:30:45 From Jeff Miller http://jeff.dojo.fed.wiki/view/welcome-visitors/view/typescript-transcripts