Wards Wiki

Does anybody know another compact name for this original Wiki forum set up and hosted by Ward Cunningham?

"Wiki Wiki Web" is the official name.

C2 might qualify as the shortest. You will find when you type it in in Google that it is the topRanked site for this moniker (out of over 12 million hits). The same is found using many other search sites.

C2 is as compact and discoverable a name as one might use.

It is also the Inter Wiki Prefix used in many Inter Wiki schemes to represent Wards Wiki.

it is the BirthplaceOfWiki, also the MotherOfAllWikis

"C2" is imprecise, because it refers to Cunningham & Cunningham, Incorporated, and, thus, to c2.com as a whole, which includes other things besides Wiki Wiki Web.


I have referred to c2.com as 'the mother wiki'. Apparently mother in Hawaiian is makuahine, so what about Makuahine Wiki? -- Stijn Sanders

appropriate, but not Compact


Wiki, without any additional context, refers to this site.

Yeah, but that meaning is lost now that wiki is more popular. Lots of different engines run it in different forms. If I'm on a page reading "Wiki" in the singular as referring to this site, I know that I'm at c2.com and that the text may be very old, or the author may be an old-timer here. -- ms

The archaic name Wiki Wiki Web could be misleading, at a time where different Wiki Forums get more and more connected.

Do we all have a lack of better things to do?

"Let's deal with it at that time." We are just at the threshold. -- fp

The Portland Pattern Repository is the name of this specific publication, according to How To Cite Wiki. It is, alas, not a well-known or obvious name. It may even be misleading, now that there is so much non-pattern stuff in it.

There have been, and will continue to be, many Other Wards Wiki Name Suggestions.


Be aware that there are at least two connotations for 'Wards Wiki'. One is to distinguish it from other wikis and wiki-like phenomena on the web. "Which wiki are you talking about?" "Wards Wiki, of course!" Another is to charge Ward Cunningham with god duty and privilege amongst these pages, and then to invoke his name in attempt to control the behavior of other wiki participants: Its Wards Wiki. These two connotations are quite different, and any ambiguity among them could be quite significant.

There's another connotation. You can show your gratitude to Ward for this Wiki by following as best you can the Good Style he originally proposed, although this seems to have gotten more complicated of late. The impulse to honor Ward, without deifying him, is a helpful and proper one for this Wiki. Trying to imitate Ward may not produce the desired effect. Complicated.

And another - Wards Wiki could mean the Ward's software implementation (in contrast to the clones)


Mostly I seem to read that "Its Wards Wiki, and so we should bla bla bla because that's what Ward wants". Is this particular part of Wiki History written somewhere? -- Walden Mathews

No. But it is an observable fact that Ward doesn't police Wiki, despite being begged to do so on innumerable occasions, and has in fact publicly declined to do so (I can't remember the page where he did it but it was a statement along the lines of "I've already stated my position on that as strongly as I can without harming Wiki"). I've met Ward in person, heard him speak, and read his contributions here, these experiences have led me to believe that Wiki is an exercise in emergent behavior. I believe that Ward set up the mechanics of Wiki in the hope that they would lead to certain behaviors and is now watching to see if those behaviors emerge. Stepping in to lay down the law might cause the behaviors but it would at least break the experiment and might excite destruction. Perhaps Ward Is Like God in this way. Since Ward chooses not to wield his influence here by telling us what to do, I feel that it is terribly disrespectful and dishonest of others to use his name in order to increase their own influence. -- Phil Goodwin

So this is what God feels like, eh? In truth I have little power beyond the ability to pull the plug. I can't even drive away a persistent pest. So what do I do? I show up occasionally, say something quotable, and then hope for the best. For the rest we have only kind people to thank. Thanks. -- Ward Cunningham

.:| WARD, "the ability to pull the plug" is not one I would want. Distribute this data that is definitely NOT YOURS over many peer-to-peer machines, or eventually-eventually all your back-up schemes and redundancy measures will fail, PEACE :-) N888 betterdifferent dot com |:.

"Nobody can do everything; everyone can do some." "Perfectionism is the enemy of the good." etc, etc ... thanks, Ward. -- Ben Tremblay

"The question is, are we in this thing alone, or are we in it together?" - Thomas Bangalter

Or could it be that Wiki Wiki Web is an experiment to prove that Anarchy doesn't work? In which case, Ward would never step in to restore order - that would completely skew the experiment, introducing a single leader.

This would be my fear - that Ward won't do anything to moderate the wild goings-on here. Every discussion needs some moderation eventually, even in a church Bible study group. How about here? Yeah.

Why use a Wiki if you want modding, anyway? 'Open and free' is what is unique about this whole thing, isn't it? And the important thing is, Wiki Works! -- Moirin Tierce

Functionally, Wiki = public blog, but is currently better than this implies because folks try to make it work. It's the closest I've seen to an Internet gestalt, and it's subject to Darwinian pressure with usenet, blogs and web forums as competitors. The lack of text formatting has the same egalitarian effect as usenet, i.e. everyone has the same size megaphone, which protects it against commercial abuse. Nonetheless, it is a White Bicycle Technology and thus may be abused to death as it attains critical mass. -- Chris Quirke


What others are saying - www.usemod.com


For even more references to this page try: www.google.com

This doesn't seem to work. Why is this?


In the absence of direct intervention by Ward, and with Ward's approval, Wards Wiki is being administrated by Wards Wiki Stewards.



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